tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18955218.post116494281557055960..comments2024-03-04T13:23:26.433-06:00Comments on Stardust Musings and Thoughts for the Freethinker: Another universe may have preceded ours, study findsStardusthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10560872454564355114noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18955218.post-88574259091453480702009-08-29T18:06:27.719-05:002009-08-29T18:06:27.719-05:00And rwestafer, if you find anything else on the su...And rwestafer, if you find anything else on the subject will you please let me know? Thanks.Stardusthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10560872454564355114noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18955218.post-29976125608706908462009-08-29T18:05:41.969-05:002009-08-29T18:05:41.969-05:00rwestafer, thanks for coming by and taking the tim...rwestafer, thanks for coming by and taking the time to read. This is a post from nearly three years ago, so glad to see it's still in circulation! Yes, it is important and interesting subject.Stardusthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10560872454564355114noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18955218.post-53228231354916159612009-08-29T14:31:08.482-05:002009-08-29T14:31:08.482-05:00Stardust, you are VERY right. Your assessment agr...Stardust, you are VERY right. Your assessment agrees with Tolman, Einstein, Steinhardt,Ashtekar, and others.<br />I'm glad you found the 2006 "big-bounce" research interesting. What's funny about this approach is that physicists are looking at only one bounce. <br />Consider the semantic differences between "another universe" and "our" universe when we're talking about a physical bounce through which the information of one universe is passed to the other. Are the two universes really distinct? How can we know?<br />Physically (at least according to A. Ashtekar of Penn State), such a pair of universes (before and after "the" bounce) is intimately linked.<br />This is all because Ashtekar assumes certain quantum mechanical rules in formulating the bouncing universe (which, fortunately, happens to agree with the most wildly useful revolution of physics: quantum mechanics). His assumption is quite good. It's a very valid way of mapping/extrapolating what happens "here" on earth to what's going on "out there."<br />The ramification, however, is this: the universal "bounce" should in fact echo in the dynamics all around us. We may be literally looking into "the" bounce whenever we look at anything. How interesting that this phenomenon might always have been right in front of us (and all around us)!<br />Furthermore, this outcome must be the case for a correct universal theory, because a single discrepancy (somewhere, sometime) would invalidate the theory.<br />So it seems we both agree this is an important story and I'm glad your post turns up in Google and is continuing to raise awareness!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18955218.post-1165106062427129342006-12-02T18:34:00.000-06:002006-12-02T18:34:00.000-06:00Daniel, yes, some men (and women) are interested i...Daniel, yes, some men (and women) are interested in finding proof of life elsewhere in the universe, but 99% of the people on this planet go about their daily lives without giving it much thought. Thus, it is an error on your part to equate the six billion people on this planet with the small part of the human population that takes an active interest in finding proof of life elsewhere in the universe.Tommykeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14751182125861177379noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18955218.post-1165052926717150262006-12-02T03:48:00.000-06:002006-12-02T03:48:00.000-06:00Given man's ego, it's interesting that man is alwa...Given man's ego, it's interesting that man is always looking for evidence of some other form of life elsewhere in the universe. Is he not brave enough to face the fact he might be a one-off? <BR/><BR/>Given his nature it's just as well.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18955218.post-1165018184311291162006-12-01T18:09:00.000-06:002006-12-01T18:09:00.000-06:00ka, if you or anyone else who comes by are intere...ka, if you or anyone else who comes by are interested, xian Dan and I are having an interesting discussion here: <A HREF="http://thoughtsfortheopenminded.blogspot.com/2006/11/thought-for-day.html" REL="nofollow">Bertrand Russell</A>...I would appreciate a bit of historical contribution in this debate.Stardusthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10560872454564355114noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18955218.post-1165008083645594612006-12-01T15:21:00.000-06:002006-12-01T15:21:00.000-06:00Whoa, how cool is that?!?!?I've always said that m...Whoa, how cool is that?!?!?<BR/>I've always said that matter/energy has always existed.<BR/>This, however, spawns the query of infinite regression (at least for the theists).Krystalline Apostatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09044558668644447375noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18955218.post-1164981991559145092006-12-01T08:06:00.000-06:002006-12-01T08:06:00.000-06:00beepheep - there are endless possibilities and the...beepheep - there are endless possibilities and the looking for answers leads to things we would have never known before. Contemplating where we came from is very fun and interesting and it will probably take longer than the earth is old to figure it out...if humans ever can. Until then, most will probably just cling to their superstitions and mythologies because most humans are in need of some kind of definite answers. If they can't find them, they make them up...which is kind of boring if you ask me.Stardusthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10560872454564355114noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18955218.post-1164976313375863022006-12-01T06:31:00.000-06:002006-12-01T06:31:00.000-06:00This is why the human concept of "beginning" is su...This is why the human concept of "beginning" is such a mental mine field and why theists have so much fun with speculating on "the beginning."beepbeepitsmehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12931640447011071849noreply@blogger.com