tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18955218.post359527989097829376..comments2024-03-04T13:23:26.433-06:00Comments on Stardust Musings and Thoughts for the Freethinker: Dobson accuses Obama of `distorting’ BibleStardusthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10560872454564355114noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18955218.post-82785656387291157202008-06-30T13:37:00.000-05:002008-06-30T13:37:00.000-05:00I wish people were as zealous about protesting aga...I wish people were as zealous about protesting against our tax dollars being thrown away on endless and often needless road construction. Zapp...why don't you pray to your god and see if he can make some roads that will last more than one winter season. Thanks.Stardusthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10560872454564355114noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18955218.post-65543229558139576542008-06-30T13:35:00.000-05:002008-06-30T13:35:00.000-05:00zapp, ummmm...there is no god. So while I don't au...zapp, ummmm...there is no god. So while I don't automatically brand you as a "fantatic"...let's just say that I believe you have been "misled". <BR/><BR/>Before you can talk about god and defend him, you must first prove his existence. And don't ask me to "disprove"...for that would be like me asking you to disprove all the Hindu gods don't exist, or all the other things people believe in without evidence. You are held to the same expectations as other religions, to prove that your god, gods, goddesses exist and most of you admit that you cannot. Therefore, you are simply believing in something you choose to believe in without evidence. Just like a child believes in Santa Claus with only the evidence that his or her parents supply (lies) to keep the belief going. God beliefs are simply Santa Claus beliefs for grown-ups. <BR/><BR/>Yes, humans help other humans, and we must do what we can to help each other with or without government support. But no god is going to come do it. This god never shows up. Only humans show up to clean-up, defend, cure, help...no god comes. <BR/><BR/>And Zapp, you gladly accept whatever the government wants to hand out to you free when it is offered. You rely on the police to protect you, the military run by the government to protect you, government-run education, etc. <BR/><BR/>And if you had read my post you would see that I neither support Obama or McCain. My post was about a religious fundie accusing another religious fundie about distorting the Babble...pretty amusing how you all quibble about interpretations of a book written by your various versions of god.Stardusthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10560872454564355114noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18955218.post-54001491572898600752008-06-30T12:49:00.000-05:002008-06-30T12:49:00.000-05:00I don't expect atheists or non-believers to unders...I don't expect atheists or non-believers to understand this. Most likely, this will be branded as another fanatic's statement.<BR/><BR/>Jesus said, very simply, that we should love God and love our neighbors. If we just did that, then the world would be a whole lot better place, because we would be putting others ahead of ourselves. We would appreciate how God provides for us. God's original testament does not contradict what Jesus taught. Jesus showed that we need to follow God and not our selfish desires. He didn't give us a set of rules. <BR/> True Christianity means doing what Jesus said to do. He instructed us to sacrifice, take care of the poor, the weak and defenseless. He did not want us to make government the magnificent benefactor. He wants His people to do it, and if you hadn't noticed, Christians were the first people start universities and hospitals in America. <BR/>Personally, I don't depend on the government to take care of me. I work hard, pay taxes, contribute to help others, give time to help people and teach love in action. I believe that I have to step out of my personal comfort zone and do what is hard (to help people). Quit expecting government to take care of homelessness, welfare, etc. and give of yourself!! Obama and McCain don't get it; government keeps people free by protecting us from evil attackers, not by giving us stuff. Let us do that. Gov't needs to get out of the way. We don't need government to take care of us.<BR/>Do we trust God or trust ourselves?<BR/>It's not all about Obama or McCain. It's all about God. <BR/>Faithfully, ZappZapphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02144330365223122007noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18955218.post-32501976598057823482008-06-26T22:33:00.000-05:002008-06-26T22:33:00.000-05:00"But do you have a source on that?"Well, the fact ..."But do you have a source on that?"<BR/><BR/>Well, the fact that the Messiah has for twenty years been going to the megachurch down on 95th street that believes in Marxist liberation theology should be a big hint.<BR/><BR/>But if that isn't enough, examine the Messiah's <A HREF="http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=18967" REL="nofollow">voting record</A>, starting in Springfield.<BR/><BR/>I can't think of a single conservative vote Obama has made. In contrast, I can think of many liberal votes McCain has made, from judges to taxes to campaign finance "reform" to the environment. Obama is an extremist, while McCain, for better or for worse, is compromise incarnate.jhbowdenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12377271992125388319noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18955218.post-72329578626147146802008-06-26T18:27:00.000-05:002008-06-26T18:27:00.000-05:00Voting for Obama gives them a fake sort of redempt...<B>Voting for Obama gives them a fake sort of redemption by proving that sinful and greedy America really is a good place by giving this loser a chance.</B><BR/><BR/>So that explains why Bush was elected twice!Tommykeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14751182125861177379noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18955218.post-20788816970588244912008-06-26T14:30:00.000-05:002008-06-26T14:30:00.000-05:00Obama is on the far left of the Democratic PartyI ...<I>Obama is on the far left of the Democratic Party</I><BR/><BR/>I know I shouldn't comment on another countries politics. But do you have a source on that? From what I read he was slightly more right wing with people like Dennis Kucinich more on the left.Half rabbithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02051709972180106165noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18955218.post-31482816277348228762008-06-26T09:19:00.000-05:002008-06-26T09:19:00.000-05:00stardust--The modern left is anti-ideological. Pic...stardust--<BR/><BR/>The modern left is anti-ideological. Pick whichever label you want, or profess you are beyond the categories of thought. It is all the same to me.<BR/><BR/>McCain is on the far-left of the Republican Party, which puts him in the center of the political spectrum. Obama is on the far left of the Democratic Party, which puts him on the extreme -- I can't think of a single issue he is conservative on. If McCain is not an option, and Obama's commitment to Marxism is insufficiently revolutionary, who <I>would</I> be revolutionary enough to be our Messiah?<BR/><BR/>Here's a little secret about Obama. He's not being supported because he is good -- we're not supposed to consider his experience, his record, his judgment, his peers, or his issue positions. Obama the great community organizer is being championed precisely because he is *not* qualified to be President. Yes, the left is <I>that</I> perverse. If Obama was a CEO, or a general in the military, or if he was white, then Hillary Clinton would have been able to out-victim him <I>easily</I> in the gloom and doom minds of the liberal laity.<BR/><BR/>People support Obama in the spirit of <B>charity</B>. Prosperous people often feel they don't deserve it, and carry a lot of self-induced guilt. Voting for Obama gives them a fake sort of redemption by proving that sinful and greedy America really is a good place by giving this loser a chance.jhbowdenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12377271992125388319noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18955218.post-29242358199444522502008-06-26T09:15:00.000-05:002008-06-26T09:15:00.000-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.jhbowdenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12377271992125388319noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18955218.post-54790146414217225802008-06-25T10:49:00.000-05:002008-06-25T10:49:00.000-05:00progressiveProgressive, liberal, socialist, hippie...<I>progressive</I><BR/><BR/>Progressive, liberal, socialist, hippie...I am confused now as to what label I am supposed to have. ;)Stardusthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10560872454564355114noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18955218.post-45976318377643307842008-06-25T10:08:00.000-05:002008-06-25T10:08:00.000-05:00Just what is the promised change? Has anyone defin...<I>Just what is the promised change? Has anyone defined it?</I><BR/><BR/>Whatever many Obama supporters want it to mean. That's one of my biggest beefs. What is this change, exactly. And my second beef is the flip flopping.Stardusthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10560872454564355114noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18955218.post-31184345732460061212008-06-25T09:20:00.000-05:002008-06-25T09:20:00.000-05:00"people are going to be greatly disappointed when ..."people are going to be greatly disappointed when that promised "change" doesn't happen."<BR/><BR/>Just what is the promised change? Has anyone defined it?jhbowdenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12377271992125388319noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18955218.post-82379701932949981882008-06-25T09:15:00.000-05:002008-06-25T09:15:00.000-05:00greg--Barack Hussein Obama *is* a Messiah. People ...greg--<BR/><BR/>Barack Hussein Obama *is* a Messiah. People "just believe." I've NEVER heard a progressive tell me that "I support Barack Obama because I like his positions on live birth abortions, sex ed for Kindergarteners, reduced penalties for gang crimes, and talking to killer dictators."<BR/><BR/>It obviously isn't BHO's judgment <BR/>to lead either, given BHO is friends with thugs like Bill Ayers and Reverend Wright.<BR/><BR/>And it isn't BHO's experience-- you just don't get to be President by being a "community organizer."<BR/><BR/>It is always this vague baloney about "change" and "hope." In short, Obama is a <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_negro" REL="nofollow">magic negro</A> for guilty white folks.jhbowdenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12377271992125388319noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18955218.post-68516107042308022002008-06-25T05:46:00.000-05:002008-06-25T05:46:00.000-05:00It would be nice, but since we are living in a par...It would be nice, but since we are living in a partial theocracy, what do we expect. <BR/><BR/>As for Obama, I like many who are left of center, are not expecting much. He is good at saying pretty words, but he hasn't really done anything yet except a lot of flip-flopping. McCain is absolutely NOT an option. I am disappointed that I have no options in this election. If Obama is elected, people are going to be greatly disappointed when that promised "change" doesn't happen.Stardusthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10560872454564355114noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18955218.post-41982254637609803012008-06-25T01:26:00.000-05:002008-06-25T01:26:00.000-05:00Lawdy! Reading Jason's crazed amd really wacky co...Lawdy! Reading Jason's crazed amd really wacky comments about the "savior" Obama is just plain laughable, if it wasn't so darn sad.<BR/>He's almost like a raving lunatic.<BR/><BR/>Oh well.<BR/><BR/>I'm giving Obama credit for this one too, Starry. Still, do you think that there will ever be a time when religion is NEVER mentioned in a campaign?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18955218.post-47372865776998323612008-06-24T22:54:00.000-05:002008-06-24T22:54:00.000-05:00Well, Dobson and the fundies have the monopoly on ...Well, Dobson and the fundies have the monopoly on victimhood, ignorance and sacrifice. Right now Dobson is in a huge persecution complex mode.Stardusthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10560872454564355114noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18955218.post-72518129520917038222008-06-24T20:18:00.000-05:002008-06-24T20:18:00.000-05:00I'll give Obama credit for preaching the true Chri...I'll give Obama credit for preaching the true Christianity, the Christianity that worships poverty, victimhood, ignorance, sacrifice, and loving your enemies.jhbowdenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12377271992125388319noreply@blogger.com