Sunday, December 31, 2006

1,400 Turkish animal sacrificers maim themselves

Idiotic stories of the superstitious folks are endless. Here is yet another bizarre and amusing story that I found on Yahoo News that resembles something one might find in a production of Monty Python.

ANKARA, Turkey - Over a thousand Turks spent the first day of the Muslim feast of Eid al-Adha in emergency wards on Sunday after stabbing themselves or suffering other injuries while sacrificing startled animals.

At least 1,413 people — referred to as "amateur butchers" by the Turkish media — were treated at hospitals across the country, most suffering cuts to their hands and legs, the Anatolia news agency reported.

Four people were severely injured, crushed under the weight of large animals that fell on top of them, the agency reported. Another person was hurt when a crane used to lift an animal tumbled onto him, the agency said.

Three other people suffered heart attacks and died while trying to restrain animals, CNN-Turk television reported.

Muslims sacrifice cows, sheep, goats and bulls during the four-day religious holiday, a ritual commemorating the biblical account of God's provision of a ram for Abraham to sacrifice as he was about to slay his son. They share the meat with friends, family and neighbors and give part of it to the poor.

Turkish authorities have introduced fines for those who slaughter animals outside facilities set up by local municipalities, but many Turks ignored the rules and sacrificed animals in their backyards or on roadsides.

10 comments:

Anonymous said...

That seems really bizarre to me, but i'm not Turkish, so...maybe it's just a cultural thing???

Anonymous said...

Sounds tres weird to me too...

Murat Altinbasak said...

What's so weird and bizarre? Fully 2/3s of the meat is given to charity, the needy, the hungry..
Lest we forget, the so-called "slaughter" is actually done with a sharp knife in the most painless and humane way that is possible.. Have any of you seen how cattle are more or less 'destroyed' in American slaughter-houses?

Tommy said...

Murat, what is "weird and bizarre" is that you believe that an all powerful entity created everything in the universe including us, and that this deity is a male, and that he wants us to kill animals to make him happy. Why would a supreme being require such a ridiculous thing?

Cattle killed in a slaughterhouse is specifically for the purpose of making food to feed people. Animal sacrifice is done because people believe that it appeals to the vanity of some almighty sky daddy.

Stardust said...

Animal sacrifice is done because people believe that it appeals to the vanity of some almighty sky daddy.

Tommy - This is exactly what makes it so ridiculous

Murat -- that no one knows what they are doing and injuring themselves and having to go to the emergency rooms in such large numbers is also ridiculous. We don't see a large number of people who work in the slaughterhouses here going to the emergency room for injuries sustained in the butchering process. Also, we have something called refrigeration and the meat is immediately refrigerated. Those people in Turkey are eating the equivalent of what we consider to be "road kill" and reports did not show how many of those people get sick and/or die from eating tainted and rotting meat.

Then, how does what goes on in slaughterhouses here in the U.S. justify people being stupid and slaughtering animals in Turkey? If animals suffer in American slaughterhouses at the hand of trained butchers, then I can imagine that many animals slaughtered by these idiot, untrained god believers go through unimaginable suffering.

Murat Altinbasak said...

"If animals suffer in American slaughterhouses at the hand of trained butchers, then I can imagine that many animals slaughtered by these idiot, untrained god believers go through unimaginable suffering."

This is where you're dead wrong. American slaughterhouses are run like concentration camps.. There are no "butchers" slitting the throats of animals. A machine punctures their necks while they are clamped in a booth, then a huge device lops off the head, I'm not sure in which order. Don't tell me that what happens on a farm, which is essentially the proper way that is used by Turks and others (a sharp knife which crosses a part of the neck which minimizes pain)... is more terrifying than an American slaughterhouse.
By the way, who are you guys to assume that you know exactly what my beliefs are. What nerve.

Stardust said...

murat - if these 1,400 turks who were maimed know what they are doing, then why did they have to go to the emergency room for treatment? I do know what goes on in American slaughterhouses and most is done by machine and is quite appalling. (My son is a strict vegetarian and has shown us the videos.)

However, this attention you choose to focus on about American slaughterhouses does not explain how people in the year 2007 can sacrifice animals to an invisible sky daddy. That superstitious belief in itself, and the fact that people are injuring themselves in mass numbers because of some superstitious belief is what is absurd.

Also, your defense of the animals sacrificers might lead one to mistakenly believe that you are one who advocates and believes in animal sacrifice.

Murat Altinbasak said...

I am able to show the utmost respect to athiests, is it impossible for you to reciprocate?
Forget the word sacrifice for a sec. Peope gotta eat. Sure it's ridiculous to kill so may animals on one day, but animals are sacrificed every day of every year, in every country, so that we can have food on the table. Your fixation on the Muslim holiday is a bit silly. You guys should chill a bit, I am a non-practising Muslim (it's all about respect for my elders at this point) My father-in-law is an athiest and I am into it, but still on the journey.. Again, I would appreciate it if athiests here refrain from mocking those who believe, at least those who respect your choice not to believe. Sheesh.
Peace in '07
-Murat

Tommy said...

Uhhh Murat, television stations throughout the Muslim world show programs that portray Jews as using the blood of Christian children to make their matzoh bread, and Stardust has a post on her blog that people voluntarily make a decision to visit ridiculing the need for people to slaughter animals in order to please some non-existent deity. Which is the greater offense in your eyes?

I am sorry if you feel offended by our remarks here and you are of course free to make your feelings known to us.

Stardust said...

I am able to show the utmost respect to athiests, is it impossible for you to reciprocate?

murat - I have already reciprocated by allowing open comments so you and others can comment on my blog. I am an atheist. I will write my viewpoints here. If you do not like them, then you do not have to come here and you are free go find a blog or blogs that more suit what you want to hear. I do not go to other blogs of muslims or any other faith and tell them the things I write here. You came to me. You may voice your opinions here, but please do not tell me what you feel is appropriate or inappropriate for me to express on my own blog.

Forget the word sacrifice for a sec. Peope gotta eat.

I, for one, cannot just put the the word "sacrifice" aside for a sec. because sacrificing anything to appease an invisible man in the sky is absurd to me. If religious people doing the sacrificing were really wanting to feed the hungry, they would find a way to feed them 365 days a year and not on just one crazy superstitious holiday.