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Freethinker: : one that forms opinions on the basis of reason independently of authority; especially : one who doubts or denies religious dogma By all means let's be open-minded, but not so open-minded that our brains drop out. Richard Dawkins, in "Science, Delusion and the Appetite for Wonder,"
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I'm sad to learn you support the Messiah.
Care to explain how Obama will create peace and make jobs? When do we get to see his magic Obama powers? I've heard he can even raise his arms and redirect hurricanes.
Liberals tell me after the Obama goes to Iran, Ahmadinejad will renounce killing the Jews and dismantle his nuke program. "Your holiness, I've never heard it put like that before," Mahmoud will tell our Messiah before fainting. See-- no need for bombs.
Seriously, even though Comrade McCain is a socialist like the rest of them, he can at least tell his friends from his enemies. Do you really think letting the Party of God (the Hezb'Allah) have nukes is a good idea? Where do people get off thinking America is the problem?
Didn't you think this little cartoon thingy was funny, especially towards the end when Hillary is talking about health care for gorillas.
Take a look at this flip-floppin'
The Real McCain
McCain probably doesn't remember where the Middle East even is anymore.
he can at least tell his friends from his enemies.
Only when someone reminds him. ;)
Stardust--
You wrote that "A good leader should be able to know how to be a better diplomat and not just shout out orders to bomb the crap out of our enemies." You think McCain is "insane," implied that he is senile, and think Republicans need to learn how bad McCain is as soon as possible.
The Messiah, **by your criterion**, is a _good leader_ for loving his enemies. I think loving your enemies is completely nuts. I know you want to make everyone happy, but I can easily do the math; we'll have to disagree on this.
We already know how leftist (and therefore bad) McCain is. McCain opposes the Bush tax cuts, wants the government to take over free enterprise to save the planet, opposes free speech (McCain-Feingold), wants blanket amnesty and handouts for 12,000,000 illegals without building the fence first -- I expect this stuff from Obama and Clinton, but not a Republican. If Obama didn't want to befriend every hostile religious fundamentalist on the planet, I would vote for Bob Barr and let the Democrats get the credit for the socialist fuckups that are rotting our Republic.
And didn't you hear that Obama is now pro-Israel? He sounds just like a Republican on this issue when he used to be a Palestinian supporter. He changes stances like the wind.
Obama affirms pro-Israel stance
I DON'T support any of the candidates. I don't even know if I am going to vote because sometimes it seems it doesn't matter. There are five months till the election and a lot can happen. May Rip Van Winkle will nod off during the campaign, maybe the Republicans have the goods on Obama. Who knows. This is a whacked out election.
How did you get me supporting Obama out of this cartoon that makes fun of ALL the candidates? (scratches head)
"A good leader should be able to know how to be a better diplomat and not just shout out orders to bomb the crap out of our enemies."
This is true. And it goes two ways. If talking doesn't work, then something should be done. This should have been a concern long ago instead of invading another country that was not a threat.
Care to explain how Obama will create peace and make jobs? When do we get to see his magic Obama powers?
He won't and he won't. He doesn't have any magic powers. I think you haven't been reading everything I write. I took some heat over at GifS for my views about Mr Obama and his so-called "change".
"How did you get me supporting Obama out of this cartoon that makes fun of ALL the candidates?"
I inferred it from the rabid anti-McCain threads on GIFS. Why the urgency of getting Republican relatives not to vote for McCain, if you are indifferent about Obama?
The Messiah, **by your criterion**, is a _good leader_ for loving his enemies. I think loving your enemies is completely nuts.
Ummm...care to point out where I said that?
Why the urgency of getting Republican relatives not to vote for McCain, if you are indifferent about Obama?
McCain doesn't even know what is going on anymore. Did you watch the video link of flip-flopping? That is pretty damn dangerous when he doesn't even know who is who, what is what and where is where. His biggest concern is probably if he can take a pee in the morning. He is too damn old.
Simple logic.
"A good leader should be able to know how to be a better diplomat and not just shout out orders to bomb the crap out of our enemies."
Obama wants to be diplomatic with everyone, and doesn't want to bomb the crap out of our enemies.
Therefore, by strict logic, Obama has a property of a good leader.
McCain's liberalism is his flaw, not his age. Unlike Obama, McCain knows that the Republic has 50 states.
Obama wants to be diplomatic with everyone, and doesn't want to bomb the crap out of our enemies.That's not what he said in his speech the other night. He said "the problem must be 'eliminated'" if talks fail. He already made those other comments about Pakistan when the election was first getting started.
McCain's liberalism is his flaw, not his age. Unlike Obama, McCain knows that the Republic has 50 states.
Only if one reminds him of that. Did you watch the video link? He probably doesn't remember what day of the week it is.
BTW, I am voting for McCain, but I'm not giving him a dime.
I received a call from the McCain campaign today begging me for money. My response to the poor woman: "I thought McCain wanted to take money out of politics like the Democrats. Why does he need money from me?"
This election we have someone who we really don't know who he is...Obama, and we have someone else who probably doesn't know where he is or who is who unless someone reminds him. McSenile doesn't even remember what he says, Obama just won't say anything and never gets around to giving a straight answer. SO, who do we choose? More of the same, or take a gamble?
Why does he need money from me?"
Because he doesn't want to risk his own money, but will risk yours. Like most politicians. Hillary at least put up a good chunk of her own money.
Stardust--
There is no more of the "same." The menu is a socialist like Harry Truman who wants to stop our enemies, versus a socialist like George Galloway that wants to shine love upon our enemies.
"I thought McCain wanted to take money out of politics like the Democrats. Why does he need money from me?"
What did the woman say?
There is no more of the "same." The menu is a socialist like Harry Truman who wants to stop our enemies, versus a socialist like George Galloway that wants to shine love upon our enemies.
Our choices with such serious and dangerous things going on in the world really sucks ass.
I'm going to watch Battlestar Galactica with Paulholio -- I'll be back to boost your social ranking later...
;)
And I should explain that I wrote send The Real McCain video to all your Republican friends and family members just to show them how senile he is getting to be. Is this the man we want with his finger on the trigger?
I have also criticized Obama (people don't like when one criticizes Obama and can get rather nasty similar to a religious fundie). But questions have to be asked and don't know why people are afraid to force him to answer questions. Treat him just like any other candidate and make him answer questions asked of him and don't keep making up eloquent bullshit to kill time till time has run out like he always does.
Hillary seems brilliant compared to these two. But she is history now as far as presidential candidate and we are left with one lousy choice, and one choice we really don't know about except what people are making him out to be.
I wasn't thrilled with Hillary, but these two are making her seem brilliant.
Great comment from Original Jimmy Dean at GifS at my Obama post. RDZ has called him a racist for criticizing Obama as a politician. I think that he stops short of calling me one because I am a fellow mod.
OJD says: "Its funny how someone can sanely talk about how its stupid for reasonable criticism of israel tobe labeled as anti semitism, yet go around insanely calling people who have legitamate concerns with his holyness obama racist. Irony , irony, so much irony… And folks who would make jokes about jewish people not using electricity on saturdays (to me it seems like not using electricity for a day is one of their good traditions) go and insinuate that people thoughtfully remarking on the dangers of radical militant islam concerning immigration policy are bigots. You’d think the followers of his holyness Obama would be in good humor after the DNC gave him an nomination against the peoples’ will. As far as cutting people off in traffic, I’m sure that is not a personnal concern of Obama’s, what with his procession of cop cars with a big luxurious SUV in the middle carrying His Holyness - not so sure about the rest of that, guess its not the first weird perversion out of you … apologies do go a long way, as far as that type of thing goes
TommyKey brings up an interesting point regarding what the future holds as ratios of different faiths change… Maybe someday our tax dollars will pay for footbaths in all the public university restrooms! Instead of Senators introducing legislation concerning desecrating the American Flag, we’ll have capitol punishment for pissing on the Koran!
—Did anyone else catch the exact wording regarding preserving Israel’s identity as “a Jewish State”??? - Good to see that Obama is in favor of the wedding of church and state in this case (sarcasm intended). Or were those “just words”. In the words of Obama’s former religious mentor and reverand of the church he attended for about 20 years, “I say what I have to say as a minister, and he says what he has to say as a politician” How is this change, and why cant McCain’s followers do the same thing as Obama followers in pointing to any hypocracy and labling it as wise political positioning. It will be interesting to see how well third and fourth party candidates do this cycle - it could be a very good thing for the future of our country’s politics if people started parting from the herds of the two major parties which have a monopoly on our political system at this point. Obama’s flip flop pandering while spouting out about hope and change… not so much.
I would like to think that Clinton will still somehow get the nomination that she won by popular vote. Its a shame that Obama could be so audacious as to defy the will of the voters after repeatedly declining generous offers for a revote. Some real change has to come of this at least. Shuffling the primary dates, or just scrapping the current system and starting from scratch with one that actually reflects the will of the voters - oh wait the DNC’s constitution does have a bit about fair reflection… Looks like Donna Brazile’s mom didnt teach her to play by the rules after all! But its OK, in Michelle Obama’s words, hillary couldnt run her own house thus cannot run the white house, and for her family with their slightly darker skin tone to be seen at the inaugeration will be so symbolic to the rest of the world! Should mysoginistic ideals and the anticipation of positive racism trump the very fabric of our democracy? What part of fair reflection is so hard to understand?
It's frustrating when all we want to do is ask questions and expect answers and get distracting irrelevant responses like "you're a racist" or "what did Obama do to you to make you so obsessively critical"...things like that. But doesn't tell us exactly what Obama means by change, and explain why he dilly dallies will eloquent quotes from the past and never answers the damn questions. Amazing how someone can be elected to President of the most powerful nation on the planet as a "symbol". Yes, I may just sit this one out because I have no choices. I feel like Ellen Johnson from American Atheist who recently resigned...she is voting for no one also.
"Is this the man we want with his finger on the trigger?"
Yes. McCain is definitely more qualified than Obama on matters of foreign policy, and has a better head on his shoulders. On economic issues, McCain is just as bad as Clinton, though marginally better than Obama. There is nothing brilliant about socialism.
I consider socialists as economic creationists, and treat them in the same contemptible manner. They think that nothing develops without a realizing a plan conceived by a single intelligence. Both socialists and creationists do not understand systemic causation. Of course, we hear the usual hysterical rants about social Darwinism, which is hooey -- goods are exchanged in a free market, not "distributed" in the way leftists talk about it. Successful corporations are selected by how well their goods and services meet the needs of the consumers. Sure, bad corporations won't survive, but that's the point -- capitalism is not just about getting what you want, but avoiding what you don't want, something impossible under socialist systems when we consider education, retirement, healthcare, and wherever it extends its collectivist tentacles.
McCain makes Obama look senile. Obama is walking gaffe machine. The media doesn't report Obama's mistakes, but has full hysteria over everyone else's. Clinton misremembering being under sniper fire, the RFK comment, faking a southern accent -- Hillary was swiftboated by her own team this time around; the Democrat media threw her under the table for the new Messiah.
The Obama opens the Red Sea
McCain makes Obama look senile.
McCain is senile, Obama just doesn't know a whole lot and just knows how to quote dead presidents. He is running like he is a Kennedy reincarnated, but he is no Kennedy.
Anyways, this time around they all equally suck, IMO. Then the third and fourth party candidates are all kooks.
Well, I wouldn't want Obama on my bowling team!
Oh and btw, how's that Michelle Obama tape coming along for you Jason?
"Why'd he....?"
"McCain is senile"
No, he is not. I just documented that Buraq is a human gaffe machine; yet no one questions his sanity. In other words, if we apply the same standard you're applying to McCain to everyone else, *everyone* becomes senile. Reductio ad absurdum.
The problem with McCain is that modus operandi is to get free press by suck ingup to the Democrat media. McCain has been invited to Meet the Press more frequently than just about anyone else. Democrats presented McCain as a wise and elder statesman, even a possible running mate for John Kerry (who served in Vietnam), since McCain does things like attack the Bush tax cuts. But now his friends in the liberal media are turning on him because he stands in the way of the Messiah, even resorting to attacking his age. It is disgusting. There are plenty of things to hate about McCain, but his age is not one of them. Cheap attacks on an old man make McCain look more sympathetic -- and keep in mind, old fogies vote in general elections.
Tommy--
The tape of Obama's wife appears to standard agitprop from the Clinton war room, though I have the audacity of hope the RNC has it and will drop it in October.
Latest on the "whitey" rumor.
Michelle Obama never used the word "whitey" in a speech.
The campaign has created a new Web site to debunk rumors about the Obamas, http://www.fightthesmears.com.
HOWEVER, I do believe they will find something on him as the election draws closer.
It's starting already: "CHICAGO (Reuters) - The chief of Democrat Barack Obama's search for a vice presidential running mate stepped down from that role on Wednesday over questions about loans he received from a company involved in the U.S. housing crisis."
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