Stardust Musings and Thoughts for the Freethinker

Saturday, April 01, 2006

9 comments:

jhbowden said...: Jew-hating fascists out to harm the Great Satan are not going to go away when Bush's term expires.

If the Democrats win in 2008, they will have to decide whether to appease, change, or destroy totalitarian Islamic societies. I deeply fear they will pick the first option; not learning from 9/11, they would rather blame ourselves than face the gravity of our situation.; 4/02/2006 9:03 PM
jhbowden said...: Just to hammer home how radicalized the Middle East is getting:

Statue fatwa riles artists

Shaikh Ali Gomaa, the Grand Mufti of Egypt and the country's most senior Islamic jurist, issued the religious edict last week.

He ruled that the exhibition of statues in homes is prohibited and based his opinion on the hadith (the sayings of Prophet Muhammad).
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It is only a matter of time before someone blows up the Karnak Temple at Luxor and the thousands of other of Pharaonic sites. Note-- Islam has been living with giant Buddhist statues and so forth for centuries -- what we're dealing with *today* is our old friend fascism, this time with an Islamist inspiration.

Here is another article worth reading, this time by Mark Steyn:

Don't deny that some Muslims are hot for jihad
excerpt:
If I had to propose a model for Western rhetoric, it would be the Australians. In the days after Sept. 11, the French got all the attention for that Le Monde headline -- "Nous sommes tous Americains" -- "We are all Americans," though they didn't mean it, even then. But John Howard, the Aussie prime minister, put it better and kept his word: "This is no time to be an 80 percent ally."

Marvelous. More recently, the prime minister offered some thoughts on the difference between Muslims and other immigrant groups. "You can't find any equivalent in Italian or Greek or Lebanese or Chinese or Baltic immigration to Australia. There is no equivalent of raving on about jihad," he said, stating the obvious in a way most political leaders can't quite bring themselves to do. "There is really not much point in pretending it doesn't exist."

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Is it something in the water down there? Listen to Howard's Cabinet colleagues. Here's the Australian treasurer, Peter Costello, with advice for Western Muslims who want to live under Islamic law: "There are countries that apply religious or sharia law -- Saudi Arabia and Iran come to mind. If a person wants to live under sharia law these are countries where they might feel at ease. But not Australia."; 4/03/2006 2:56 PM
Stardust said...: Jason, I think most of us are well aware of how "radicalized" the Middle East IS and how utterly incompetent the Bush administration has been in handling it.; 4/03/2006 5:54 PM
Anonymous said...: "I deeply fear they will pick the first option; not learning from 9/11, they would rather blame ourselves than face the gravity of our situation."

It is you who are failing to learn from 9/11. The targets chosen were not arbitrary. The WTC and the Pentagon--symbols of US economic and military hegemony. The Bush regime's response is to continue and extend that hegemony, breeding yet more fanatics. As for the Democrats, you give them too much credit. They are barely distinguishable from Republicans; there is really only one political party in the US: the Corporate party.; 4/03/2006 6:09 PM
jhbowden said...: stardust --

The poster above clearly illustrates the mentality that dominates today's left. That's why I'm no longer a member of the Democratic Party.

I believe it is unwise to support Islamic fascists and oppose Islamic democrats. And it is completely ridiculous to blame America for fascist violence, just because such fascists are from another culture. Events from the destruction of the Buddhist statues in Afghanistan to the 200,000 dead killed in Algeria in the 1990s have nothing to do with America.; 4/03/2006 9:50 PM
Anonymous said...: Debbie, I just wanted to say congrats!! I saw that you are a new member of GifS!! Wooo hooo! I think you'll be a great addition! :-); 4/04/2006 8:15 AM
Anonymous said...: I believe it is unwise to support Islamic fascists and oppose Islamic democrats.

This seems a strange remark. Was there anything in my comment that indicated I deem it wise to "support Islamic fascists" or to "oppose Islamic democrats"?

Events from the destruction of the Buddhist statues in Afghanistan to the 200,000 dead killed in Algeria in the 1990s have nothing to do with America.

What of certain events of 2001 September 11, had they anything at all to do with America, do you think? Or was that just random fanatical violence, equally likely to have happened anywhere?

In your original post you implied you advocate either changing or destroying totalitarian Islamic societies. Would you care to state which you prefer--change or destruction? If it is the former, do you reckon positive change can be accomplished by the methods employed by the Bush regime?; 4/04/2006 3:27 PM
Stardust said...: Cassandra - That's right! I was invited to join them and was so surprised! I think their site is hilarious sometimes. It's a great place to "vent".; 4/04/2006 5:31 PM
jhbowden said...: "If it is the former, do you reckon positive change can be accomplished by the methods employed by the Bush regime?"

Yes. Removing Hussein's fascist regime alone was a positive change -- the elections a few weeks ago were another, and when they finally get settled on a government, we'll have another success.

"Was there anything in my comment that indicated I deem it wise to "support Islamic fascists" or to "oppose Islamic democrats"?

Well, you don't want the United States to support the new democracy
against attacks from Baath party fascists and jihadist totalitarians who want the total society instead of a liberal society.; 4/04/2006 9:16 PM

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